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		<title>Whither Software Engineering</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The July 2009  issue of the IEEE/Computer magazine in its &#8220;32 and 16 Years Ago&#8221; section remembers that 16 years ago:
Software Engineering  (p. 68) &#8220;The IEEE Computer Society Board of Governors has approved a motion to establish an ad hoc committee to serve as a steering group for evaluation, planning, coordination, and action [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.postmaster.gr&blog=223002&post=455&subd=adamo&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The July 2009  issue of the IEEE/Computer magazine in its &#8220;<a href="http://doi.ieeecomputersociety.org/10.1109/MC.2009.207">32 and 16 Years Ago</a>&#8221; section remembers that 16 years ago:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Software Engineering</strong>  (p. 68) <em>&#8220;The IEEE Computer Society Board of Governors has approved a motion to establish an ad hoc committee to serve as a steering group for evaluation, planning, coordination, and action related to establishing software engineering as a profession. The action came during the board&#8217;s May 21 meeting in Baltimore, Maryland, in conjunction with the International Conference on Software Engineering.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>In the same issue Neville Holmes <a href="http://doi.ieeecomputersociety.org/10.1109/MC.2009.208">writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Now software engineering aims to be a branch of engineering, but is finding it difficult to be accepted as such. The problem is that other branches sensibly use the skills and talents of technicians to ensure the success of their professional work. Software engineering doesn&#8217;t; it won&#8217;t let go of programming&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It took a lot of people and effort to design programming languages and models (procedural, functional, etc) that tried to define how people should practice programming.  It took only two pieces of software to make anyone think that  is a quality programmer: Access and Visual Basic. So Holmes is right: Let go of programming; it is a lost cause.</p>
<p>After reading <a href="/2008/02/18/%ce%ba%cf%8d%ce%ba%ce%bb%ce%bf%ce%b9/">one of my posts</a>, John Allen (author of &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Lisp-McGraw-Hill-computer-science/dp/007001115X">Anatomy of Lisp</a>&#8220;) sent me his unpublished manuscript &#8220;Wither Software Engineering&#8221; and corresponding presentation entitled &#8220;More Ballast!&#8221; which also deal with the subject of whether Software Engineering is actually a branch of Engineering.  You can freely download the <a href="http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2005/media/allen-slides.pdf">pdf slides</a> and <a href="http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2005/media/allen-audio.mp3">audio</a> of an older version of the presentation (Title: History, Mystery and Ballast). In them Allen deals with the transition of traditional Engineering from an experience-based craft to a science-based discipline. Much of the historical data he uses come from &#8220;<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/00033799000200111">Engineering education in Europe and the USA, 1750-1930</a>&#8220;. I have also read &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Education-Technology-Industrial-Performance-1850-1939/dp/0521381533/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1259232409&amp;sr=8-1">Education, technology, and industrial performance in Europe, 1850-1939</a>&#8221; (also <a href="http://portal.tee.gr/portal/page/portal/PUBLICATIONS/ARHIKI_SELIDA/BIBLIOPAROYSIASEIS_EKDOSEWN/ekpaideusi.pdf">translated in Greek</a>) on the subject.</p>
<p>Basically Engineering training followed the path of:</p>
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<li>Apprenticeship for a long period of time under the supervision of an Engineer</li>
<li>Study (and get certified for) the equipment of a specific manufacturer paying a considerable amound of money, and</li>
<li>University studies</li>
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<p>Does this ring a bell regarding today&#8217;s IT arena? It is exactly for this reason that Allen was motivated. Mathematics and Physics transformed traditional Engineering. Can this be done with computation and mathematical logic? His presentation closes with:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is this kind of education, <strong>not Java vocational training</strong>, that will bring <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_%28computer_scientist%29">McCarthy</a>&#8217;s 40+ year old quote to life:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;It is reasonable to hope that the relationship between computation and mathematical logic will be as fruitful in the next century as that between analysis and physics in the past. The development of this relationship demands a concern for both applications and for mathematical elegance.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>At least for programmers we are not there yet. The link between their work and mathematical logic is not obvious for all.</p>
<p>In the closing discussion of <a href="http://www.hdms.gr">HDMS 2009</a> there was a debate whether &#8220;their stuff&#8221; could be considered as a branch of Engineering, regardless of liability issues. <a href="http://www.cs.pitt.edu/~labrinid/">Alex Labrinidis</a> said <em>&#8220;Give us 2000 years to perfect bridge building and then come back asking for liability&#8221;</em>.  Lambrinidis is <strong>wrong</strong>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammurabi">Hammurabi</a> solved the issue of Engineering liability <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi">back in 1790 BC</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then the builder shall be put to death.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>After the discussion ended <a href="http://www.cs.uoi.gr/~pvassil/">Panos Vassiliadis</a> pointed to me <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_J._Denning">Peter J. Denning</a>&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1467247.1467257">Is Software Engineering Engineering?</a>&#8221; article which concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;We have not arrived at that point in software engineering practice where we can satisfy all the engineering criteria described in this column. We still need more effective tools, better software engineering education, and wider adoption of the most effective practices. Even more, we need to encourage system thinking that embraces hardware and user environment as well as software.</p>
<p>By understanding the fundamental ideas that link all engineering disciplines, we can recognize how those ideas can contribute to better software production. This will help us construct the engineering reference discipline that Glass tells us is missing from our profession. Let us put this controversy to rest.&#8221;<br />
</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Bertrand Meyer adds that<a href="http://bertrandmeyer.com/2009/08/21/the-one-sure-way-to-advance-software-engineering/"> the one sure way to advance software engineering</a> is to <em>&#8220;pass a law that requires extensive professional analysis of any large software failure&#8221;</em>. Meyer is not alone. &#8220;<a href="http://shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com/2009/11/where-are-the-dead-bodies/">Where are the dead bodies?</a>&#8221; asks Derek M. Jones who also writes: <em>&#8220;The lack of dead bodies attributed to a software root cause suggests that it is very still early days for the field of high integrity software development.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>There you have it: <strong>No dead bodies, no Engineering</strong>. Hammurabi knew that long before Engineers did.</p>
<p>You may now want to read &#8220;<a href="http://vanemden.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/cargo-cult-engineering/">Cargo-cult Engineering</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>So you think you know traceroute&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sage-members has a very interesting thread on traceroute, including a presentation by Richard A. Steenbergen given at NANOG: &#8220;A Practical Guide to (Correctly) Troubleshooting with Traceroute&#8221; [pdf]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.sage.org/lists/">sage-members</a> has <a href="http://mailman.sage.org/pipermail/sage-members/2009/msg00988.html">a very interesting thread</a> on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute">traceroute</a>, including a presentation by <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/richard-steenbergen/0/8b/398">Richard A. Steenbergen</a> given at <a href="http://www.nanog.org">NANOG</a>: &#8220;<a href="http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf">A Practical Guide to (Correctly) Troubleshooting with Traceroute</a>&#8221; [pdf]</p>
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		<title>DNS Lameness Statistics from RIPE NCC</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the RIPE DNS Lameness Statistics site:
The RIPE NCC runs a lameness check once a month on all DNS servers listed as delegation points within the RIPE NCC delegated zones. If a server fails this test, the test will be retried five times over a period of ten days, at varying times of day. If, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.postmaster.gr&blog=223002&post=899&subd=adamo&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>From the RIPE <a href="http://www.ripe.net/info/stats/dns-lameness/">DNS Lameness Statistics</a> site:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The RIPE NCC runs a <a href="http://www.ripe.net/info/stats/dns-lameness/">lameness check</a> once a month on all DNS servers listed as delegation points within the <a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-400.html#ranges">RIPE NCC delegated zones</a>. If a server fails this test, the test will be retried five times over a period of ten days, at varying times of day. If, after ten days, the server continues to fail the test, it is classed as lame. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Related document: <a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-400.html">RIPE-400</a></p>
<p align="right">[via <a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/dns-wg/2008/msg00066.html">dns-wg</a>]</p>
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		<title>3&#215;8</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Η ημέρα έχει 3 οχτάωρα.  Σε ένα ιδανικό κόσμο αυτό θα σήμαινε πως μπορούμε να αφιερώσουμε:

8 ώρες για ξεκούραση / ύπνο.
8 ώρες για εργασία.
8 ώρες για προσωπικό χρόνο / οικογένεια / διασκέδαση κ.λπ.

Damn, agou is right!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Η ημέρα έχει 3 οχτάωρα.  Σε ένα ιδανικό κόσμο αυτό θα σήμαινε πως μπορούμε να αφιερώσουμε:</p>
<ul>
<li>8 ώρες για ξεκούραση / ύπνο.</li>
<li>8 ώρες για εργασία.</li>
<li>8 ώρες για προσωπικό χρόνο / οικογένεια / διασκέδαση κ.λπ.</li>
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<p>Damn, <a href="/2009/05/26/q-how-do-you-eat-an-elephant/#comment-42875">agou is right</a>!</p>
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		<title>Ένα άστρο επιστρέφει</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ιδιότροπος, περίεργος, ξεροκέφαλος, ακατανόητος μερικές φορές ακόμα και για τους παίχτες του. Και μετράμε: 2 συμμετοχές σε Euro, μία κατάκτηση against all odds και μία συμμετοχή σε Παγκόσμιο Κύπελο.
Όχι κι άσχημα για ένα &#8220;ξεμωραμένο μπάρμπα&#8221; όπως τον είχε αποκαλέσει ένα &#8220;διαμάντι&#8221; των αθλητικών μεταδόσεων.
Απλώστε πάλι τις γλώσσες σας, γιατί από τις τρύπες που έχετε κρυφτεί [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.postmaster.gr&blog=223002&post=2864&subd=adamo&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Ιδιότροπος, περίεργος, ξεροκέφαλος, ακατανόητος μερικές φορές ακόμα και για τους παίχτες του. Και μετράμε: 2 συμμετοχές σε Euro, μία κατάκτηση against all odds και μία συμμετοχή σε Παγκόσμιο Κύπελο.</p>
<p>Όχι κι άσχημα για ένα &#8220;ξεμωραμένο μπάρμπα&#8221; όπως τον είχε αποκαλέσει ένα &#8220;διαμάντι&#8221; των αθλητικών μεταδόσεων.</p>
<p>Απλώστε πάλι τις γλώσσες σας, γιατί από τις τρύπες που έχετε κρυφτεί δεν φτάνουν.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/World/WorldCup/SAfrica2010/Ukraine_Greece/255750.html">ref</a>)</p>
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		<title>Political Game Theory</title>
		<link>http://blog.postmaster.gr/2009/11/16/political-game-theory/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Hacker News a book on Game Theory (with a political twist).
- Political Game Theory  [pdf]
Not for the faint-hearted.
Disclaimer: I am not a Game Theorist, not even close.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Thanks to <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=668386">Hacker News</a> a book on Game Theory (with a political twist).</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Political-Game-Theory-Introduction-Analytical/dp/0521841070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258382367&amp;sr=8-1">Political Game Theory</a>  [<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/~ameirowi/pol575/gtbookts.pdf">pdf</a>]</p>
<p>Not for the faint-hearted.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I am not a Game Theorist, not even close.</p>
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		<title>Ken Thompson</title>
		<link>http://blog.postmaster.gr/2009/11/12/ken-thompson/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ένας καλός φίλος μου έστειλε χτες βράδυ με email ένα attachment:
Επειδή ο φίλος δεν μπορούσε να βρει κάποιον να του εξηγήσει πως βρέθηκε αυτό το name tag, ρώτησα τον ίδιο τον Ken Thompson και ιδού η απάντηση:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Ένας <a href="http://twitter.com/tstath">καλός φίλος</a> μου έστειλε χτες βράδυ με email ένα <a href='http://adamo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/thompson.pdf'>attachment</a>:</p>
<div id="attachment_2853" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://adamo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/thompson.jpg"><img src="http://adamo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/thompson.jpg?w=300&#038;h=192" alt="ken thompson's nametag" title="ken thompson's nametag" width="300" height="192" class="size-medium wp-image-2853" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">ken thompson's nametag from a unix symposium in Greece ~1989</p></div>
<p>Επειδή ο φίλος δεν μπορούσε να βρει κάποιον να του εξηγήσει πως βρέθηκε αυτό το name tag, ρώτησα τον ίδιο τον <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Thompson">Ken Thompson</a> και ιδού η απάντηση:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>i dont remember exactly, but i think it was in the mid 80&#8217;s. i was invited by the government &#8211; department of science or technology or something like that. the occasion was at a time when <strong>the government was trying to require unix</strong> for sub contractors for standardization.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Ταυτόχρονα ρώτησα και τον <a href="http://ariadne-t.blogspot.com">Γιάννη Κοροβέση</a>, έναν από τους πρωτεργάτες του Internet στην Ελλάδα:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Λοιπόν, ναι ήμουνα και παρών στο Ξενοδοχείο (Intercontinetal ?) γύρω στα 1989 μαζί με τον ΚΕΝ ήταν και ο B.Gopinath και ένας τρίτος που δεν θυμάμαι προς το παρόν.</p>
<p>Οργανωτής ήταν ο Γιάννης Κοζατσας του ΥΚ της ΓΓΕΤ του τότε (ΥΒΕΤ, Ε=Ερευνα)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Το πιο απλό γεγονός, μία απορία μπορεί να οδηγήσει σε κομάτια της Ελληνικής τεχνολογικής ιστορίας που είναι σχετικά άγνωστα.</p>
<p>Όποιος ξέρει / θυμάται περισσότερα για το γεγονός, παρακαλείται να σχολιάσει.</p>
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		<title>sendmail:  Should I use $*, $+ or $- ?</title>
		<link>http://blog.postmaster.gr/2009/11/09/sendmail-should-i-use-or/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When writing a sendmail.mc rule, you can use some operators on the left hand side, like $- (match exactly one token), $+ (match one or more tokens) and $* (match zero or more tokens).  You may find yourself in a situation where for example you want to use a certain delivery agent for some [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.postmaster.gr&blog=223002&post=1714&subd=adamo&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>When writing a <em>sendmail.mc</em> rule, you can use some operators on the left hand side, like $- (match exactly one token), $+ (match one or more tokens) and $* (match zero or more tokens).  You may find yourself in a situation where for example you want to use a certain delivery agent for some of your users.  Normally you would write something like the following:</p>
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LOCAL_CONFIG
Kmitsos btree -m -a.mitsos /etc/mail/mitsosusers

LOCAL_RULE_0
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R$-  &lt; @ $=w . &gt; $*              $: $(mitsos $1 $)  $3
R$- . mitsos  $*     $#mitsos $: $1
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<p>The above example seems to be correct, right?  But what if you have a user in <em>mitsosusers</em> that contains a dot (.) in the user name (for example yiorgos.adamopoulos)?  Because the . is a token separator (see the <em>OperatorChars</em> definition in your <em>sendmail.cf</em>), $- will not match the name.  So the correct ruleset in this case is:</p>
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R$+  &lt; @ $=w . &gt; $*              $: $(mitsos $1 $)  $3
R$+ . mitsos  $*     $#mitsos $: $1
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<p>I got bitten by this sometime ago, and that is why I am sharing it.</p>
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		<title>What I like about the NoSQL crowd</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I am not a big fan of the NoSQL movement (mostly because many of its advocates use arguments I do not agree with) there are a few things that I like about the NoSQL crowd and I want to write them down*. Most of what follows stems from discussions through the years with our [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.postmaster.gr&blog=223002&post=2782&subd=adamo&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Although I am not a big fan of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL">NoSQL</a> movement (mostly because many of its advocates use arguments I do not agree with) there are a few things that I like about the NoSQL crowd and I want to write them down<sup>*</sup>. Most of what follows stems from discussions through the years with <a href="http://www.tee.gr">our</a> DBA and some friends who are members of the &#8220;<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20041215113754/delab.csd.auth.gr/Greek_Database_Community.html">Greek Database Mafia</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>For more than two decades the dominance of the relational model (even though no commercial system fully implemented it<sup>&dagger;</sup>) was undisputed. Nobody ever got fired for choosing a commercial RDBMS for an application, where instead one would look suspicious if one dared to propose something different.  This situation is no different than what Rob Pike described in &#8220;<a href="http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~ejones/writing/systemsresearch.html">Systems Software Research is Irrelevant</a>&#8221; for Operating Systems:</p>
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<li>For example it took 10+ years for the <a href="http://www.rtreeportal.org">R-Tree</a> to enter the commercial systems, although it was solving a real problem. In the meantime if you were lucky and your system offered extensibility you could write it on your own.</li>
<li>No matter how novel the system, for it not to be marginalized it had to have an &#8220;SQL layer&#8221;. No SQL queries, no sales. Provide an SQL layer and all innovation of the product stays unused.</li>
<li>Ones proposal for an RDBMS purchase had to be among three or four commercial products. Anything else would likely be considered <em>&#8220;a hacker&#8217;s choice&#8221;</em> because <em>&#8220;We make money! We cannot go that way!&#8221;</em></li>
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<p>You could say that databases outside academic research had come to a halt.  You don&#8217;t believe me? Just ask <a href="http://cgi.di.uoa.gr/~yannis/">Yannis Ioannidis</a> who uses to say that <em>&#8220;Databases are <strong>dead</strong>&#8220;</em><sup>&Dagger;</sup> in the most emphatic way when he wants to stir things up in a conversation.</p>
<p>And this is what I like about the NoSQL crowd (== implementers, advocates and integrators) . They do not care about established standards. They are not afraid to experiment in a &#8220;real environment&#8221;. Some of them may focus on a single problem and solve it well. Others may aim at a wider range of problems. But no system is stopped from being developed and deployed because it not &#8220;SQL compilant&#8221; or not relational. And even though some of these solutions resemble <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CODASYL">CODASYL</a><sup>o</sup>, once again there is action in the field.</p>
<p>But please people, stop marketing them as a &#8220;one solution fits all&#8221;. For we will again end up in a stagnation era, just like when everyone was storing stuff in an RDBMS for lack and fear of better suited solutions. They do not invalidate relational systems. They fill in the gap left by them.</p>
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[*] &#8211; <a href="/2009/10/26/lesson-14/#comment-43506">As I had promised</a>.</p>
<p>[&dagger;] &#8211; By the way, did you know that <a href="http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/629796.htm">GROUP BY works outside of the &#8220;relational box&#8221;</a>?</p>
<p>[&Dagger;] &#8211; I have heard him say this while giving a speech.</p>
<p>[o] &#8211; &#8220;<a href="http://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/50678-the-nosql-discussion-has-nothing-to-do-with-sql/fulltext">one usually gets a low-level record-at-a-time DBMS interface</a>&#8220;, says Mike Stonebraker.<br />
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		<title>La Ola</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>From page 25 of <a href="http://www.connectedthebook.com">Connected</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A group of physicists who usually study waves on the surface of liquids were sufficiently intrigued that they decided to study a collection of filmed examples of <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_ola">La Ola</a></em> in enormous soccer stadiums; they noticed that these waves usually rolled in a clockwise direction and consistently moved at a speed of &#8220;twenty seats per second&#8221;.<sup>*</sup></p></blockquote>
<p>Damn! I have participated numerous times in such waves and never, ever thought of that!</p>
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[*] &#8211; &#8220;<a href="http://angel.elte.hu/wave/">Mexican waves in an excitable medium</a>&#8220;, Nature 419, 131-132 (2002).<br />
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