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Από: Jeff Darcy

Jeff Darcy — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:02:51 +0000

Salvador: I don’t think Stonebraker goes far enough. Yes, he said “one size does not fit all” but he doesn’t seem to extend that beyond one set of CAP/ACID tradeoffs. You can have any kind of army boots you like, but you can’t have running shoes. ;) There’s also a whiff of “only I’m allowed to disrupt this status quo” in his essay about NoSQL. Does that clarify?

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[...] a relational database is the only tool you know, every problem looks like a thumb. NoSQL is making people aware that there are other options out there. But we’re not anti-relational-database for when that really is the best tool for the job; it’s [...]

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[...] What I like about the NoSQL crowd'And this is what I like about the NoSQL crowd (== implementers, advocates and integrators) . They do not care about established standards. They are not afraid to experiment in a “real environment”. Some of them may focus on a single problem and solve it well. Others may aim at a wider range of problems. But no system is stopped from being developed and deployed because it not “SQL compliant” or not relational.' I've been trying to figure out if the NoSQL crowd represented the tip of a new type of software development – that is, a subtle shift in the way "makers" perceive the job and tasks of developing software and what that means for the rest of the software world – like open source or project management tools. The gut-check to feel out is, "these guys are making weird assumptions and doing strange things that make no sense to me as far as something 'you'd want to do." [...]

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Από: adamo

adamo — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:06:03 +0000

@agou: I generally agree with you that one has to use the right tool for the right job. It is just that sometimes the general perception is so strong about what the right tool is that one feels defenseless. That is the case with operating systems without POSIX layers (I do not know about mobile phones and PDAs though) and that was the case with RDBMS. And do not forget that just like cars who have race boys the same stands for computers too. @Salvador Fuentes: "Who are these people?" People who need persistence and who achieved that by using an RDBMS not as a relational system, but as a tabular one that could be queried over SQL. And did that the wrong way. Real example:

SELECT name,surname from table WHERE lang1='English' OR lang2='English' OR lang3='English';

You get the picture. But if the above seems clueless (which it most certainly is), even people with a clue. @Jeff Darcy: "It’s like we’ve all been locked in the same room for two decades, and now we get to explore the rest of the city." It is exactly what I am feeling. But I also feel that somehow we are reinventing what locked us into the room.

Από: Arun Srini

Arun Srini — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:54:48 +0000

good one

Από: Salvador Fuentes

Salvador Fuentes — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:57:17 +0000

Well personally I like Stonebraker, even though his recent article didn’t read too kindly. :) He’s obviously a smart man with a creditable history when it comes to database systems, so any intelligent person will care to *listen* to what he has to say. However, I consider BigTable (Google) to be a part of NoSQL, and I wouldn’t consider their work silly. They are intelligent engineers as well and that’s an understatement. Furthermore, “one size fits all” obviously doesn’t apply if Mr. Stonebraker has Vertica AD *and* VoltDB. Or was it intended to mean “one size fits all for OLTP”?

Regardless, I share your refreshing feeling of this DBMS renaissance age/time.

Από: Jorge Vargas

Jorge Vargas — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:46:19 +0000

I totally agree.